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Guns & Gumbo: Leesburg Restaurant Encourages Customers To Open Carry

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68 comments:

  • Gunhandbags posted at 1:33 am on Sat, Sep 7, 2013.

    Gunhandbags Posts: 1

    Hopefully more restaurants will adopt this policy. Conceal carry should be allowed in many more places than it currently is. Kudos.
    Stella@gunhandbags.com

     
  • mosborn posted at 5:28 am on Wed, Apr 24, 2013.

    mosborn Posts: 140

    Right. Much safer.

    http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/leesburg_man_injured_in_accidental_shooting898

     
  • GunSafetyMom posted at 8:02 am on Mon, Apr 15, 2013.

    GunSafetyMom Posts: 3

    Sorry, but I really can't believe that someone armed with a camera could easily murder 20 innocent people in five minutes as someone was able to do at Newtown. Your argument lacks validity.

     
  • Glory posted at 8:13 pm on Sun, Apr 14, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 1010

    To one that’s a crankin’ -

    * ‘The position’ -
    It’s unfortunate that you tended to misread,
    if you hadn’t presumed and viewed through hypocrisy,
    you’d recognize what I truly believe -
    ALL rights viewed equally; NONE should be forced, nor supercede.

    * ‘The expressed concern’ -
    “Carrying” alcohol with a gun
    is generally frowned upon
    I guess, unless you visit abode Cajun -
    Just beware the volatile one(s).

    * ‘The response’ -
    When I started on LT, the intent never was mean;
    snark came later when “someone” vocal arrived on the scene.
    Only Melissa and No Left Turns Downtown had cojones to call him out, clean.
    I return to a different role - to disseminate information.

    * ‘The karma’ -
    Now that you’ve contributed to the ranks of (see below) derogatory naming,
    commonly known as internet flaming,
    The 3rd grade talk is indeed worth taming.
    Is this what the party’s autopsy calls revitalizing and game-changing?

    Examples:
    *“irrational fear and violent hatred” ?
    *So Glory can understand it, I'll break things down to simpler terms” ?
    *Glory's Second Amendment hatred” ?
    *Now that the linkage is crystal clear to someone with even a third grade level of education” ?

    [cool] catfish are jumpin', gotta go!

     
  • norges55 posted at 12:27 pm on Sun, Apr 14, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    A abundance of civility does not compensate for a lack of intelligence. itscrankin is in the groove and you are really sensitive, take your anti-sensitivity pill and call your Doctor in the morning. If someone decides to become uncivil the place to do it will not be at Cajun Experience.

     
  • GunSafetyMom posted at 9:29 am on Sun, Apr 14, 2013.

    GunSafetyMom Posts: 3

    A lack of civility does not compensate for a lack of intelligence.

     
  • itscrankin posted at 11:41 am on Sat, Apr 13, 2013.

    itscrankin Posts: 64

    So Glory can understand it, I'll break things down to simpler terms.

    Cameras and guns are a lot alike. They are both inanimate objects which by themselves have no capacity to hurt people. When used inappropriately, both of these items have the potential to harm others. People can be physically assaulted and injured with either of these tools. (There's nothing preventing one from taking a camera and flogging someone on the side of the face with it repeatedly - which is likely to do considerable harm.)

    Firearms and cars are a lot alike too. There are considerable numbers of people injured by both every year - as a result of accidents and as a result of intentional abuse. People have the capacity to use either of these tools in a harmful manner. But, again, by themselves - without human interaction - neither of these objects is inherently dangerous.

    No object is dangerous unto itself. Objects are rendered safe or dangerous by the actions that individuals take with them. A car - something that Second Amendment haters and hate speech supporters apparently do not fear - is rendered far more dangerous when speeding down the streets of Old Town Leesburg than these firearms are sitting in the holsters of people enjoying an evening meal. Yet we see irrational fear and violent hatred targeted toward the responsible gun owners in this thread.

    Now that the linkage is crystal clear to someone with even a third grade level of education, perhaps we can see why Glory's Second Amendment hatred and disdain for people who would dare express their freedom is so irrational. The ironic thing is that it's people like that who preach "tolerance" from atop their soapboxes and push idiotic concepts like "political correctness" through our society who in this case are drastically intolerant, spiteful, and hateful themselves. I'd request that LTM ask them to tone down their hate speech, or take their conversation elsewhere (maybe back to MoveOn).

     
  • Glory posted at 11:40 am on Sat, Apr 13, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 1010

    http://hamptonroads.com/2013/04/how-online-flaming-kills-understanding

     
  • norges55 posted at 11:28 am on Sat, Apr 13, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    a typing cow patty has put me on the do not contact list. oh lord i feel forsaken but if you and laugh are part of the couth list I am content along with my aka's to be excluded from it. . can you smell that smell?

     
  • Glory posted at 10:57 am on Sat, Apr 13, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 1010

    John Erickson, aka norges, aka oranges (thanks to Laugh on LTM for identification):

    Please ask your wife and daughters for lessons in couth, as if that might help. Meanwhile, you merit no future responses.

     
  • norges55 posted at 6:41 am on Sat, Apr 13, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    Just checked my camera that was on the porch and everyone is still safe. I saw a cow doing its business this morning and my first thought was Glory.

     
  • norges55 posted at 10:39 am on Fri, Apr 12, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    I had a loaded shotgun on my rockin chair all day Saturday and when I checked it had not killed or injured anyone.

     
  • Glory posted at 5:00 pm on Thu, Apr 11, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 1010

    Logic? Firearms = cameras, cameras = cars, thus firearms = cars? The syllogism is off.

    We saw your letter to the editor, with similar verbiage on this thread. Back to you, please read oh, so carefully - "Don't let your irrational fear of inanimate objections (sic) cloud your judgment so badly; it reflects poorly on any arguments you attempt to construct."

    (Great faux pas - inanimate objections) We value education over fear everytime. [beam]

     
  • itscrankin posted at 4:15 pm on Thu, Apr 11, 2013.

    itscrankin Posts: 64

    @Glory -

    And firearms by themselves are not "deadly weapons".... DUH.

    It takes a reckless person to misuse the TOOL to make it deadly. I would think that one who so staunchly supports the Loudoun County education system would understand such distinctions. Time to apply what you learned in "Logic 101".

    Firearms are exactly like cameras, in the sense that either one can be used as a tool for either good or bad purposes. They're exactly like cars as well, in the sense that both firearms and vehicles can be deadly when misused or abused. Would you also support banning the use of cameras and banning the use of motor vehicles around you?

    Don't let your irrational fear of inanimate objections cloud your judgment so badly; it reflects poorly on any arguments you attempt to construct.

     
  • datrappert posted at 3:59 pm on Thu, Apr 11, 2013.

    datrappert Posts: 1

    I make a point of not eating with morons, so I won't be going here anymore. The food is lousy anyway.

     
  • fbilansdowne posted at 10:34 pm on Wed, Apr 10, 2013.

    fbilansdowne Posts: 2

    KUDOS!!! My family will gladly eat here!

     
  • Glory posted at 8:34 pm on Tue, Apr 9, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 1010

    Re: "I personally don't understand the 'logic' ": "Firearms and cameras are a lot alike" -

    Cameras don't shoot bullets, are not deadly weapons, duh.

     
  • itscrankin posted at 4:38 pm on Tue, Apr 9, 2013.

    itscrankin Posts: 64

    I personally don't understand the "logic" employed by all the people claiming to be mothers posting in this thread. I would think that you would want your children to grow up in a country that valued its freedoms... all of them. I guess that philosophy is what got traded in to receive your official "soccer mom" badge.

    There's nothing wrong with a bunch of people who want to get together at a restaurant and carry weapons - whether carrying openly, or in a concealed manner. If it makes you feel better, think of these folks in the same way that you would think of a group of photography enthusiasts bringing their cameras to a restaurant and dining. (You wouldn't feel threatened or scared then, would you?) Firearms and cameras are a lot alike - at the end of the day, they're tools used by various people in hobbies and jobs. Those of you who live your lives in fear of inanimate objects should really consider seeking medical attention.

     
  • YVFrank posted at 12:49 pm on Tue, Apr 9, 2013.

    YVFrank Posts: 1

    This red-nick article is not intended to provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the American way. These red nicks only care about life before its born. Thanks for reading-Billy Bob from the blue hole, up yonder just a hoop and a holler from them their city folks.

     
  • slurpee posted at 10:24 am on Mon, Apr 8, 2013.

    slurpee Posts: 16

    The author writes "...encourages his customers to carry licensed firearms every day..."

    What is a licensed firearm????

     
  • Rick posted at 4:02 am on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

    Rick Posts: 1

    Thanks for supporting the 2nd Amendment. If I'm ever in the area, I will be sure to stop by for a bite.[smile]

     
  • norges55 posted at 3:59 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    The only thing you have ever said that is correct is that I am trolling. I keep getting the small ones like Glory to be exact. Don't get the drizzles over your concerns.[ohmy]

     
  • Glory posted at 9:31 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 1010

    Melissa is correct. Norg is trolling, doesn't like to be challenged, and just needs to GOMA, please.

    My concern goes back to the issue that open carry and alcohol consumption are encouraged, together, in public settings.

     
  • Melissa posted at 8:44 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    Melissa Posts: 2

    Norges55, I am flabbergasted. Am I missing something? In what way did an owner or a customer beat up on glory? Glory asked a question, and I responded to it ... in the most congenial, factual manner. There's really no need to exaggerate and inflate the atmosphere of the discussion.

     
  • mosborn posted at 8:26 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    mosborn Posts: 140

    "I'm a man, I carry when I please."

    There's a continued trend from the pro wanna-have-my-public-meals-w-my-gun-out group. Sort of an "I'll do what I want, and if you try to stop me, I'll start an armed revolution" type of attitude. It's very impressive. But...again...no one's trying to stop you, so your macho bluster is bizarre and misdirected.

     
  • j1mmyd posted at 6:22 am on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

    j1mmyd Posts: 1

    I will gladly pay full price for what someone described as an "average" meal in order to support this above average expression of liberty. Gun rights are civil rights.

    Some of us don't much worry that a few ladies and their beta-male co-conspirators swoon as their heads fill with dangerous fantasies at the mere thought of a gun. I'm a man, I carry when I please.

     
  • Frank Reynolds posted at 8:51 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    Frank Reynolds Posts: 617

    I don't carry a gun myself, but I certainly don't feel threatened around legal gun owners open carrying. When was the last time you read about someone legally carrying a gun (open or concealed) that decided to "lose it" and shoot the place up? Some of the posts here seem to think the "Cajun Experience" on Open Carry Night is like the 38th Parallel, where at the drop of a hat there is going to be firefight. I highly doubt you have anything to worry about. Stay away though if you want I guess.

    I also think there is some misinformation here on gun laws. If I remember correctly from when they changed it, you can carry in a place that serves alcohol, just can't drink any. You used to not be able to even enter the establishment.

    So if anyone sees someone falling on their face with a gun strapped to their hip, go ahead and call it in.

     
  • doc0529 posted at 7:59 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    doc0529 Posts: 1

    I have lived in Loudoun Co for well over 40 years and have carried concealed since it became a "shall issue" state. I will patronize any business that is in line with my beliefs and honors the original intent of the framers of the Constitution and will avoid those that do not( Wild Wings).
    Since it is still America and we are free to choose where we spend our discretionary income I will vote with my wallet and dine here.
    I may not carry open but that too is my choice.
    Good luck on the restaurant-tough business to make a go of in the best of times.

    Doc

     
  • norges55 posted at 7:41 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    It never ends if it's not owners it's the customers in this case young women beating up on Glory.

     
  • Melissa posted at 6:10 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    Melissa Posts: 2

    Glory, "Cajungurl" is a cousin who lives in Texas and is showing support. That's all. She wishes she could be here in person to show her support.

    As to your earlier posting, please see this link:
    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308

    In Virginia, you can carry a concealed weapon into a restaurant/bar ... but you absolutely cannot drink. So we never know when someone is concealed-carrying around us. At least on Wednesday nights at Cajun Experience, you can actually SEE who is carrying.

     
  • Glory posted at 5:56 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 1010

    Is part of the marketing strategy to get all the cousins from the delta to vote in the poll? (cajungurl - "I would love to be there to support your business")

     
  • cajungurl1966 posted at 3:32 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    cajungurl1966 Posts: 1

    I would love to be in the presence of licensed gun owners anyday that may be able to save my life from an unlicensed pyscho that may decide to shoot everyone in sight. I bet there's not one person who not be thankful for that gun packing citizen that may save your life. Good job Cuz for standing up for our rights! I would love to be there to support your business and eat some good Cajun food.

     
  • CB posted at 2:43 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    CB Posts: 14

    A simple google search on Buffalo Wild Wings will show it was a one time things. While it's true it did happen, it was just a misunderstanding. Cops are more than welcome to go there. =) Corporate has come out and set it straight.

     
  • bryancajun posted at 1:33 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    bryancajun Posts: 1

    Hi, my name is Bryan and I am one of the owners of The Cajun Experience. I appreciate everyone's comments and thank those who support and even those who do not support our company. Although this is a sensitive issue on Capital Hill and around the US, we at the Cajun Experience are doing this in support of our 2nd Amendment.
    I would like to make a correction about the article written by LT: The point about my Ex-Wife managing this company sounded like it was a slam against her management and that she did a bad job is totally incorrect. She ran the company for 3 years and kept the business going, but during the slow winter months, sales seem to dip a bit. This is common for most restaurants in Loudoun County. As to me taking over the company, this was done in corporation with her to help bring the business to a different level.

    For those who wish not to come back to our restaurant because of a "one night" that we disagree, all i can say is Buffalo Wild Wings promotes a non - carry and kicks out police officers....so please try this place out and hope you feel safe during dinner.

     
  • okwhatnow posted at 12:45 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    okwhatnow Posts: 1

    Bman, it's so impressive to see someone wave the sexist-pig flag so proudly. Spare everyone and find a cave and bunker in. It isn't just moms or soccer moms who get their knickers twisted over the issue.

    I don't have a problem with guns but I hate having the issue shoved in my face. There seems to be a relationship with Obama being elected and the gun lobby acting like toddlers having their toys taken away. Obama is less liberal than other dems we've lived through. Drop the drama all you gun rights nuts. You are your own worst enemies.

    I will skip dining here. I'd hate to be accused of being a soccer mom.

     
  • Glory posted at 12:43 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 1010

    Re: "In the state of Virginia, gun owners are allowed to openly carry a weapon without a permit, and consume alcohol. Servers are usually careful with those carrying firearms when serving alcohol" Usually?

    VA law is different for concealed carry; not allowed in restaurants/bars that serve alcohol. Google: VA gun laws regarding open carry for other details.

     
  • nrcbtm1 posted at 12:18 pm on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    nrcbtm1 Posts: 35

    The article provides information about the legal right to carry openly in Virginia. It also says, "Crosswhite encourages his customers to carry licensed firearms." Does Virginia require firearms to be licensed?

    The article says nothing about any limits on the right to use a weapon, just the right to carry. What is the law in Virginia about use of weapons in defense of self or others, or in defense of property?

     
  • Anonymous1 posted at 11:17 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    Anonymous1 Posts: 3

    I will never eat there again. It's a shame, because I like their food. I recognize that there are guns all around us all the time, but he is making a statement that I do not support, therefore I will vote with my discretionary income.

     
  • Butch Porter posted at 10:59 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    Butch Porter Posts: 11

    POINT OF CLARIFICATION:

    I'm an opinionated person, and everyone knows it. Please know that my comments below do not reflect the views of any other organization that I'm involved with, including the Leesburg Downtown Business Association.

    Some of our members are (rather obviously) not as supportive of an "open carry" as I am, and that should be acknowledged.

    In my attempt to support ANY downtown business trying to do something creative, I neglected to make that clarification.

    Again...this is not about politics unless one wants to make it that way. As expressed below, we welcome all to Downtown Leesburg to support businesses who support their values.

    And I'm still going to eat breakfast at Puccio's three days a week even though they have a proclamation endorsed by the Town Council that it's bad for the planet to eat meat on Mondays.

    Why? Because I support local business, and Downtown Business, and I, individually, as a citizen, hope that all of you do as well.

    Thanks.

    Butch Porter

     
  • Cmckeonjr posted at 9:36 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    Cmckeonjr Posts: 349

    You will not see me in there. Ever.

    Naive men bringing guns into homes think they are "protecting" but they increase the risk of death to everyone in the home–most of all, by far, themselves (impulsive suicide), but also their partners (suicide and homicide), children, and visitors. They–not an "invader"–are the ones most likely to die from the guns. Homes–and restaurants–with no guns in them are safer places to live and visit.

     
  • mosborn posted at 9:00 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    mosborn Posts: 140

    "If by the mere force of numbers a majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right, it might, in a moral point of view, justify revolution”

    Great example of the mindset of folks that think it's necessary to have dinner (and drinks) with a lethal weapon strapped to your belt. No one's after your gun, you big 'ol patriot. No one has said the owner or patrons of this restaurant aren't with their rights. Quite literally, no commenter has suggested anything that would infringe on your perception of your constitutional rights.

    We're just not interested in being part of your potentially deadly public display of paranoia. So while waxing nostalgic about armed revolution might put the starch in your shorts that's been so sorely missing, it makes you sound insane.

     
  • Chris Manthos posted at 8:48 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    Chris Manthos Posts: 160

    Dear Mr./Mrs./Ms Donncha,

    What a remarkable coincidence, as an individual also hiding behind the name of “Donncha” said on this very website just yesterday:

    “Besides we are not giving up much the food was average at best. This is their way of generating attention and when the novelty wears off they will be stuck with lousy food.”

    Thus, there is a paradox in your words Mr./Mrs./Ms. Donncha. Which is it? Is the food “lousy”, or did you eat there “for years?” No civilized person I know would continue to frequent an establishment providing inferior quality “for years.”

    Having come up in the Loudoun County Public School system, my comprehension of the written word is likely above average. You most certainly did, in both word and intent, imply that my hometown of Leesburg, Virginia is “uncivilized.”

    I come from one of those archaic places in America where those incapable of telling the truth are considered “uncivilized.”

    Chris Manthos

     
  • GunSafetyMom posted at 8:01 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    GunSafetyMom Posts: 3

    I can't imagine why anyone would risk the lives of their children, or their own, to dine with others who feel the need to carry firearms while eating out. It's a shame, because I like Cajun food, but I would never go to a restaurant filled with armed people of unknown (because there are no universal background checks) mental health.

     
  • LTWolf posted at 7:51 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    LTWolf Posts: 36

    A business and owner stands up for their constitutional rights. That's a good civics lesson. We all have a choice. People need to realize Leesburg is not a sleepy little town anymore. Just the other night someone went down the back alley by the parking garage where the town has spent tons of money on upgrades to public/private property and sprayed gang markings on several buildings. There's a reserved Leesburg police car parking spot right at the start of West Market street. Don't worry about a fast response though because no one parks there anymore. They've been reallocated to areas away from downtown. Guns are an inanimate object. It's people that make them good or bad. A proud "good guy" gun owner who is retired from the Armed Services.

     
  • Conundrum99 posted at 5:16 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    Conundrum99 Posts: 2

    Mr. Whitecross,

    I would like to thank you for exercising your constitutional rights. Perhaps many of your commentators have forgotten they are Americans and there are certain inalienable rights granted them as American citizen, To include there freedom of speech and there right to bear arms. We allow them the first one so why don’t they allow us the second. I would be pleased to become a new customer and will.

    Perhaps those who feel strongly about this issue should move to Connecticut or New York and see what the loss of any of these rights entails. By the way if it wasn’t for the rednecks we would still be British and not having this conversation.

    “If by the mere force of numbers a majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right, it might, in a moral point of view, justify revolution” Abraham Lincoln

     
  • Frank Grimes VA posted at 4:01 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    Frank Grimes VA Posts: 14

    Look "armed_ashburn_jogger", my major concern is jogging on the W&OD around people that carry guns like you.

    This is not a good sign for Gumbo divorcee. This is a publicity stunt for a probably struggling business.

    We get it, you guys like making people feel uncomfortable. You get off when people look at you like your a psycho bc you exercising your rights, but just remember, there is much better chance of you shooting yourself then ever living out your fantasy of shooting someone who is going to rob you at Wegmans with your "I Love Guns and Coffee" t-shirt on. Thanks for keeping us safe and remember to buy plenty of extenze for you issues that the guns fixes.

    And saying you don't like guns is not Anti-American. Having crazies being so paranoid about black helicopters and drones and that Obama is gonna take your guns because he wants people to get background checks seems far worse than someone just saying "I dont like guns"

    Why dont you move to Detroit or Mexico, maybe you will be able to live out those fantasies.

     
  • tazie1995 posted at 1:30 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    tazie1995 Posts: 40

    This guy is nuts. I will never eat there.

     
  • armed_ashburn_jogger posted at 12:18 am on Thu, Apr 4, 2013.

    armed_ashburn_jogger Posts: 1

    I open carry everywhere I go (Leesburg, Ashburn, Reston, etc) Its really not a 'big deal' in VA.

    To the anti-American folks posting about body part sizes, perhaps you should get a better argument, rather than lower yourselves to using crude commentary.

     
  • Frank Grimes VA posted at 11:46 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Frank Grimes VA Posts: 14

    Who knew there were so many people in Leesburg with tiny d*cks who like gumbo?

     
  • Megan1227 posted at 11:29 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Megan1227 Posts: 4

    Yee ha! This is why I hate VA rednecks. I've lived in Northern VA my whole life and it's no wonder other states look at us as backwards hillbillies.

    This is just plain WRONG! I will never eat at this restaurant or any other that condones weapons on its premises.

    As for Mr. Crosswhite... He obviously is lacking in other departments and has to have a gun on his waist to feel like a real man. Real men do not have to pack heat to prove themselves.

     
  • Bman posted at 11:26 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Bman Posts: 11

    Donncha --- what you don't realize is the amount of us Concealed Carry permit holders who are ever so present throughout Leesburg. I choose to conceal carry instead of open carry because I don't need some freaked out soccer mom calling the SWAT team because she can see the grip of my handgun. Unless there's a sign next to the entry specifically prohibiting firearms, there's a good best one of 'us' will be there also. Enjoy your dining & shopping experiences...

     
  • Butch Porter posted at 10:03 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Butch Porter Posts: 11

    Look...I think a ton of people on this thread have a tendency to take themselves way too seriously.

    If you're uncomfortable about guns. Don't go.

    I don't carry a gun. I went. They still served me. Noone threatened me. Done deal.

    You know it reminds me of the first time I saw "Meatless Mondays" at another restaurant, and thought, "Hey...I hope they serve meat on meatless Mondays."

    You know...they did! They served me my meat (Gyro, RIGHT across the street from the Cajun place) and they didn't even look at me funny for daring to eat meat on the Holy Meatless Monday...a day...every week blessed by the Town Government as the proper day to not eat meat.

    I ate meat...right there in front of them. I personally think it's a little weird to promote "meatless" anything at a deli, but that's their choice. If they think they're saving the planet, good on them.

    Same thing across the street. Choice is a wonderful thing.

    Now, besides that...they both have good food (I'm a Louisiana native, and the Cajun Experience has great food), and the people that run them are friendly, and they contribute to the diversity and culture of Downtown Leesburg.

    If you want to go to a town where everyone does everything exactly the same and according to a defined set of "civilized" PC guidelines, then...well, I don't know why anyone would want to go somewhere like that.

    In #DtownLsbrg, we don't care about your politics, we do care whether you're coming to have a good time. So...Laissez Les Bon Temps Rouler!

     
  • Donncha posted at 9:49 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Donncha Posts: 3

    Chris Manthos

    No paradox. I have eaten there for years but I didn't claim that the food was “lousy”. However, there are a number of places that are much better. They require me to drive farther but do not support the gun culture.

    I must have touched a raw nerve with my comment about civility (or maybe it's false indication). For me civility is being polite and well mannered. I think you have proven my point. Thanks for your support and I will eat where I feel safe (i.e. no guns)

     
  • hubba bubba posted at 9:13 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    hubba bubba Posts: 415

    So does he check their license before he gives them the 10% discount? He can offer whatever deals he wants....some will like it, some will not. No one is obliged to go there.....everyone has the freedom to choose. So let's not get bent out of shape if some choose to go and some choose to not go....there are plenty of places to eat in Leesburg.

     
  • JonathanWeintraub posted at 7:27 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    JonathanWeintraub Posts: 275

    Maybe Mr. Crosswhite should have dedicated more effort to protecting his marriage than his gun rights. I bet that would have made him happier. Thanks for that detail Ethan.

     
  • 2A4ALL posted at 4:26 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    2A4ALL Posts: 1

    As civilized as the DC Metro area? Really? Are you including DC in that area? When did such a high crime rate become civilized? Which part of the DC population do you consider civilized? The criminals carrying the guns, or the law abiding citizens who can't?

    Not necessarily the safest place in town? Let's watch and see who gets robbed or assaulted on Wednesday nights. And likely the victims (1st responders) will call 911 for some good guys with guns (2nd responders) to come help them.

     
  • Wendy Drury posted at 4:24 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Wendy Drury Posts: 10

    When businesses encourage patrons to bring their guns, it tells me that the historic area isn't as "safe" as it used to be. At least that is the perception they are advertising.

     
  • Chris Manthos posted at 4:15 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Chris Manthos Posts: 160

    Mr./Mrs./Ms. Donncha,
    You claim the food is “lousy” yet you also claim to have been eating there “for years?” Which, in this culinary paradox, is it?

    As a native son of Loudoun, with a Leesburg address my entire life, your demeaning comment questioning the level of civilization in my hometown is offensive. It’s clear you’re not from here, as no one from Leesburg would ever think such a thing.

    Where I grew up, we were taught to respect our neighbors, teachers, elders, the town police, our deputies, and the troopers. Tolerance for the opinions of others was a given, to all but the most crude of our community.
    Kids were free to walk the streets without fear and front doors would be left open all night. Crime and violence were anomalies. Citizens did double duty looking after their own and that of the community at large.

    Leesburg, and Loudoun as a whole, has always been an idyllic place to live and raise a family. The huge influx of newcomers demonstrates that many hold that opinion.

    That… is civilization.

    Eat where you wish -- but leave your juvenile and degrading comments about my hometown out of it. If it’s so bad here, then by all means, please pack it on back to where ever it is you came from. Nobody is standing in your way.

    Chris Manthos

     
  • Eddy posted at 3:48 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Eddy Posts: 3

    What is a "licensed" gun? Also.. I carry at all restaurants I eat at. It's REALLY no big deal.[beam]

     
  • PissedCommuter posted at 3:33 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    PissedCommuter Posts: 140

    Sorry, 10% and open carry is hardly a reason ever to get me to eat there again. Eat and carry all you want folks, just shows you have no taste for real cajun food. What a joke; I would rather keep my weapon concealed anyway.

     
  • Ragland posted at 2:46 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Ragland Posts: 1

    I think Crosswhite is a weirdo. Restaurants are places where people eat and drink, not carry guns. Personally, I would feel less safe eating at his place.

     
  • norges55 posted at 2:36 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    What kind of business is that you are in Sundance? What's the name of your company?

     
  • mosborn posted at 2:06 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    mosborn Posts: 140

    "Guns are welcome on the premises. Please keep all firearms holstered unless the need arises. In such case, judicious marksmanship is greatly appreciated by all!”

    I'm sure the parents of those killed in gun violence find this joke hilarious.

    I'll continue getting my Cajun Fix at Okra's in Manassas.

     
  • Sundance posted at 12:57 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Sundance Posts: 118

    FSD5DO, in what way am I "limited in understanding of civil rights"? Did I say anything about Mr. Crosswhite not being able to make this decision? Did I say anything about trying to limit his right to do this?

    Or did I say that it is MY decision, and the decision of everyone in my office, that we don't want to go to this place anymore?

    Are you under the impression that I am obligated to go to this restaurant?

    And if you think manufactured weapons have the same civil rights as human beings, you really need to have your head checked. Seriously.

     
  • FSD5D0 posted at 12:49 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    FSD5D0 Posts: 1

    Sundowner and Donncha are both... limited in understanding of civil rights, obviously. Their comments remind me of the sort of thing that one would hear from a resident of Alabama circa 1954.

    To Leesburg Today, Thanks for posting about this, I have a new restaurant to visit now. I plan on bringing lots of friends too!

     
  • norges55 posted at 12:09 pm on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    I like the food! I like the fact that you can carry a gun.
    I like a 10% discount on my food.
    Maybe if it was a 20% discount Sundowner and the others would find it less creepy. I fail to see anything creepy myself and you have a choice just make sure the door does not hit you on your way out.

     
  • Donncha posted at 11:59 am on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Donncha Posts: 3

    I fully agree with Sundance.
    I realize that Virginia is a rural state. However, I hoped that Leesburg, being in the DC Metro area, would be more civilized. I have eaten at this restaurant for years but now I will leave it to the gun nuts. Call me when his ex-wife takes over and sanity returns.

     
  • Sundance posted at 11:11 am on Wed, Apr 3, 2013.

    Sundance Posts: 118

    Congratulations to Mr. Crosswhite for opening a restaurant that I and my co-workers have enjoyed more than once. Congratulations also to the lawyers who will get to work his bankruptcy case, because I haven't mentioned this story to a person yet whose immediate response hasn't been that they will never return to the restaurant. Some of us own guns and all of us support gun ownership, but a place in a low crime area (or anywhere else, for that matter) where the owner is carrying and asks customers to bring in their guns is just nutty. We like the food but don't want anything to do with the creepiness Mr. Crosswhite has brought with it. So, goodbye, Cajun Experience.