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Posted: Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:31 pm

Emails obtained by Leesburg Today show Dave LaRock voicing opposition to the Dulles Rail extension’s funding plan in 2012, a plan for which he is now taking some of the credit.

LaRock, the Republican candidate for the 33rd House of Delegates seat, has mailed several flyers touting his support for transportation funding and last week sent a press release stating he played a key role in the creation of the tax district that will help pay Loudoun County’s portion of the rail extension.

“For years, a watchdog group I formed has been demanding that Virginia’s transportation funding be spent where it will relieve congestion. This will reduce traffic for commuters and allow farmers and businesses to move their products to market more efficiently,” LaRock stated in a mailer sent to Republican residents last week. “I also led efforts to protect Loudoun taxpayers and toll payers in the Metrorail extension financial plan. The result: Loudoun formed station-area tax districts…”

However, an email from LaRock sent to the Board of Supervisors June 21, 2012, expresses clear opposition to the idea. In the email, he suggests supervisors update revenue forecasts to reflect the “negative effect of the tax penalty” on businesses that “choose not to flee from the Ground Zero/Purple Amoeba/Shawn Williams Memorial Hyper-Tax District Zone.”

LaRock was one of the leading opponents of bringing Dulles Rail into Loudoun County, and is often associated with the massive pink Tax Pig painted with the words “Loudoun Opt Out Now” that was displayed as county supervisors wrestled with whether to fund the project.

In an interview Tuesday, LaRock confirmed he had sent the 2012 email to the supervisors and said the tax district was ultimately the best funding option on the table.

“Of all the alternatives that were put forward, the purple ameba would have proposed far less of a tax burden on the rest of the county and put a good portion of the cost on the rail station developers,” he said. “The reason I can claim some credit is, I believe, if we had not formed the Loudoun Opt Out group, the tax district would probably never have been formed.”

In the interview, LaRock did credit board Vice Chairman Shawn Williams (R-Broad Run) with coming up with the proposal.

Supervisors first began considering a tax district around the future Metro stations months before they decided to opt into the Dulles Rail project in July 2012.

When Williams presented the idea in a June 2012 meeting he said, “This tax district is based off the same concept as the Rt. 28 Tax District, where the landowners who would benefit the most do bear the expense.”

LaRock faces Democrat Mary Costello Daniel and Libertarian Patrick Hagerty in Tuesday's election.

Welcome to the discussion.


  • Glory posted at 8:02 pm on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 991

    How many of the over 20 precincts will LaRock visit tomorrow? He and May spent most of the primary day in only one location, no? Will the pig attend?

    Just say no to any excuses about missed public gatherings. If he cared, he'd have been there (and would be there). I don't see it happening now or in the future.

    I do know who shows up, who has breadth of experience, who understands of governance, who appeals cross-party lines, who listens, who solves problems, who will compromise and get business done, etc. Mary Daniel!

  • Just sayin' posted at 2:48 pm on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    Just sayin' Posts: 5

    Town of Berryville, 2010 Census: 3,343

    Town of Berryville, 2012 Population: 4,265

    So, her constituency is about 1,066 people. A seat on she's won election to twice. That's more actual electoral wins and more actual constituents than Dave LaRock can lay claim to.

  • David Dickinson posted at 2:18 pm on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    David Dickinson Posts: 1000

    Berryville has a population of 2,800. It is run by a mayor and 4 council members. Mary Daniel is not the mayor, but a council member. Taking the mayor out of the equation, Daniel has a whopping 700 constituents. While it is something, it is barely something.

    The last thing we need is more Democrat delegates.

    At the Great Falls Grange debate on Saturday, Democrat delegate candidate Kathleen Murphy said that since many doctors are not accepting Medicaid and Medicare patients, she advocates making it a legal requirement for those people to be accepted.

    That's right, Democrats want to force doctors to take government insurance (or suspend their licenses).

    Having received a cancellation notice myself from BlueCross/Shield for my family's health insurance---which they directly attributed to ObamaCare in the letter---the last thing in the world we need is like-minded Democrats ready to swing the hammer of Big Government and crush more individual choice. We lost our insurance, our doctors, etc. Obama's words were, are, and will always be lies, lies, and more Democrat lies.

    Mary Daniel can pretend to be whatever she wants (and she is), but she is a liberal Democrat following the play-book to pretend to be a fiscally conservative "moderate."

    If you believe that, Terry McAuliffe has a bridge and Brooklyn he'd like to sell you. It is right down the street from where he grew up.

  • Just sayin' posted at 1:29 pm on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    Just sayin' Posts: 5

    So...LaRock is the "Ralph Nader" of Loudoun County...that don't qualify him to be delegate.

  • David Dickinson posted at 12:14 pm on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    David Dickinson Posts: 1000

    Sometimes you're the windshield and sometimes you're the bug.

    Tomorrow, Fly, you will be the bug. 58-42 LaRock. [beam]

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 11:58 am on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35

    They're a watchdog group, DD...not a group purporting to be one thing but really acting like another.

    NFIB's chief officer has never owned a small business; most of their lobbying really only benefits large corporations and that level of business owner (that "1%"); and the bulk of their funding comes from 1%-backing groups and individuals (such as Crossroads GPS, which had a disastrous showing in the 2012 elections despite the hundreds of millions Karl Rove dumped into them).

    Keep deflecting from the real issue, though: your guy is really not qualified for the position he wants, has run a poor campaign peppered with bad decisions on his part, has come across as less-than-Christian in his behavior and statements towards his opponents and those who volunteer for them, and has been busted more than once (along with the RPV) for peddling nothing but falsehoods in his mailers. He claims to be a "true conservative" ready to go to Richmond and fight the good fight, yet he sells out to establishment GOP leaders (the very ones he thumbed his nose at just this Spring) to get their cash and endorsements. Interesting, since he didn't even bother to vote for any of them in either 2009 or 2011.

  • norges55 posted at 11:41 am on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    guess you could call that a fly in the ointment, opps!

  • David Dickinson posted at 11:23 am on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    David Dickinson Posts: 1000

    "not all it seems on 1st blush."

    Oh, how very true, Fly.

    From the homepage:

    "The Center for Media and Democracy publishes this wiki, SourceWatch."

    dig deeper...

    "The Center for Media and Democracy (CMD) is an outfit of left-wing attack dogs disguised as an independent media and information outlet. The group characterizes pro-business or free-market advocacy as bought P.R. for major companies, but CMD takes significant sums of money from left-wing foundations to fund its agitprop.

    CMD began primarily as a project of career far-left activists John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton, who used CMD as a platform from which to publish a series of books. Since Stauber and Rampton’s retirements, CMD has been run by Lisa Graves, a career Democratic Party and left-liberal activist who previously worked for Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). The group operates the publication PR Watch and a related Wiki-platform SourceWatch, which present the group’s hostile view of pro-business and free-market groups."

    Read the whole link to see just you reliable your source it.

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 11:01 am on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35
    NFIB...not all it seems on 1st blush.

    norges, seems the Town Council took advantage of a program, funded by the General Assembly for the past several years (that would be under both Dem AND GOP administrations), to provide grants and other funding options so that localities - particularly smaller ones like Berryville - won't have to burden their residents and local businesses with even harsher fee and/or tax hikes to meet new standards. Hmmm...a local governing body's elected officials looking out for constituents and saving them "real money," folks. Imagine that! That's precisely the kind of person we want representing us in Richmond...thanks for helping point that out, norges.

  • David Dickinson posted at 10:43 am on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    David Dickinson Posts: 1000

    LaRock was endorsed by the National Federation of Independent Businesses:

    LaRock has actual plans on his website, Daniel has the equivalent of a marketing slick lacking substance.

    LaRock saved taxpayers HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS by applying pressure to Metro Phase II:

    1. Above-ground Airports station vs underground SAVED $330M
    2. Eliminating the union labor requirements SAVED $250M
    3. Put pressure on the whole project and Phase II bids came in well under projected numbers. $200-$400M
    4. Forced Loudoun BoS to adopt a special tax district around Metro stations....SAVED every taxpayer in Loudoun County from additional taxes.

    That is real money folks. That's the kind of cost savings we need from our elected leaders and that is what Dave LaRock has PROVEN he can deliver.

    We'll see how things go tomorrow. I say you Democrats are vastly outnumbered in this Delegate race. 58-42 LaRock.

  • norges55 posted at 10:30 am on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    Didn't notice that you were gone but thanks for letting us know.
    Was Mary handpicked? By the democrat committee Yes!
    Did she spend money on her water plant that Virginia taxpayers paid? Yes!
    Not a increase in user fees but 4 increases isn't it, just like the energizer bunny she keeps taking and taking.
    The only substance I see is the same steamy pile you have been peddling all along.
    You calling me a liar, boy?

  • DougWilliams40 posted at 10:08 am on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    DougWilliams40 Posts: 64 out of town for a few days, and my box is chock full of slick mailers, my voicemail at home is full. What I see and hear is more of the same from the LaRock camp - lies and distortions about Mary Daniel, and very little substance to his own stuff. I then have an email forwarded to me where he is sending out an emergency plea for more campaign cash because he overspent his radio budget (running a deficit, if you will) and needs more money from the public to cover this gap. Odd, since he's the one who touts a "solid business" background and is a champion of running tight budgets, doing more with less, and being smart with the public's money. "Do as I say, not as I do," eh?

    norges, you continue to speak from a position of ignorance about Mary Daniel, and all you accomplish is you looking foolish. Look at her record - a balanced town budget that has held the line on taxes even as they undertook a $28M wastewater treatment facility paid for with a state resources grant, a 0%-interest loan (backed up by Berryville's sound fiscal management while she's been on the council) that was predicated on increased user fees, and a sizeable chunk of revenue that had been carefully banked away and managed for just that purpose...not an insignificant feat for that town of about 4000 people. This upgrade saved the town millions in fines from the state for violating the new toguh clean water regulations. So...ask yourself: is it better to have a new facility that's paid for with well-managed debt that can handle current and future development, or be saddled with an inadequate wastewater system that also costs the town millions in fines every year? As the Templar knight told Indy in the movie, seems she and the town chose wisely...and that's precisely the kind of delegate we need in Richmond.

    Just because you repeat the lie doesn't make it true - it just makes you a liar like the rest of them. Look at her resume vs. his, and it's pretty clear that Mary Daniel is the best choice for delegate. LaRock? Not even close.

  • norges55 posted at 9:38 am on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    Some might be of the opinion that Mary works well with others or the truth be told she works well at spending!
    Because LaRock doesn't march in lockstep with a political party some choose to mark this as a negative instead of a positive. He stayed on schedule and didn't leave his baby-momma and kids in the car while drumming up support at a rally, that's a good thing.
    Those in the democrat party who tout Mary as the second coming are the same ones along with others who are responsible for not getting the work done to keep the government open. Hand picked behind closed doors by you guessed it the democrat hierarchy to vote as they would say.
    Her biggest contribution to Richmond will be her talking points justifying her voting the way she is told to vote.
    She said the transportation bill is not perfect but what will she do to improve it? Heaven knows but I bet it will involve more taxpayers dollars being spent by her and others to spend our way to prosperity. Let me get this straight she has a plan to spend more taxpayer dollars and LaRock has a plan to use the dollars already collected in a wiser manner.

  • Glory posted at 9:05 am on Mon, Nov 4, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 991

    When have you ever seen a candidate spend campaign money for an newspaper ad that called that newspaper's editor a liar? It was one of the most ungentlemanly gestures I've ever seen in politics.

    Strange, to say he's too busy, complaining about missing family activities when that's the nature of an elected position. If he is too busy now to attend public meetings in our locale, what does that say about future attendance farther from home?

  • Soletmegetthisstraight posted at 9:34 pm on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    Soletmegetthisstraight Posts: 77

    So let me get this straight. David Dickinson is really going out of his way to convince people that the picture of Delegate May is not legit for the purposes of a campaign mailer. This effiort seems like so much to put forward for someone who has said there is no chance Mary Daniel can win in this republican stronghold. There are 2 key errors in your last comments. 1 Joe May is a life long republican and woulddn't authorize it out of spite. I believe he would. Uathorizing does not mean endorsing a democrat, it's just setting things up so the worst possible republican gets what he started. 2. The photo LaRock took with Joe was during the primary and an impromptu shot. Joe did not authorize that picture and was certainly disgusted at how it was used. But let's get this straight. LaRock doesn't play well with others, including his own party (rally in the valley, he stormed out because he couldn't speak on his scedule). Mary Daniel has history of working well with others. Therefore the photos with Joe May and Mark Warner. I suspect if Joe was going to give permission to either of the camps, it would be the one that was more like his in terms of bi-partisan solutions.
    Oh, and by the way, just as a side note, LaRock sent out an email asking for more donations because they had overspent their budget on radio adds.
    I think that's what called working at a deficit and taking money from the people to shore up poor government/business decisions. Great business sense Dave, great leadership Dave, great example of what you have been all along Dave. Oh and Dave, if they are handing over their earned money for a cause that has not shown success, that's called a poor expenditure of taxpayer dollars. Anybody else want to get this straight?

  • Just sayin' posted at 8:06 pm on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    Just sayin' Posts: 5

    David, did you think to ask Dave LaRock what HE was told when HE called Joe May's office?

  • David Dickinson posted at 7:44 pm on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    David Dickinson Posts: 1000

    When Joe May's office was contacted, their version of the story was that the photo was taken at a previous event when Mary Daniel won a helicopter ride from Joe May. Taking the photo was legit, publishing it as an implicit endorsement was not authorized.

    Somebody is lying.

    Just sayin', did Joe May himself really say he authorized the photo to be published in a mailer? I don't think so. LaRock may have beat him in the primary, but Joe May is a lifelong republican who is not going to endorse a democrat for spite.

    And the photo of LaRock and Joe May in the ad was Dave LaRock thanking Joe May for years of hard service. When have you ever seen a candidate spend campaign money for an ad that thanked their opponent? It was one of the most gentlemanly gestures I've ever seen in politics.

  • norges55 posted at 2:22 pm on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    shoo fly!

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 2:14 pm on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35

    Seems your can is empty...not unlike the campaign you're desperately trying to prop up. You insult from a point of ignorance about her, and it makes me wonder if your eyes are brown, since you're so full of the bull you're spreading around.

  • norges55 posted at 12:55 pm on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    Thanks, your insult has been ingested, digested and excreted, excreted that sounds like something you are all to familiar with. True it is that I copied the piece but the thing that has you dribbling down your leg is the fact that Mary would welcome becoming a part of this unholy trinity, you figure out which is which. Stay on your steamy pile as I have a can of bug spray.

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 12:38 pm on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35

    Oh, so now you're posing as Jay Carney, norges? You should have left that "embargoed." Props for actually writing something longer than your typical trite retorts, and that actually comes close to decent satire. But close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

  • norges55 posted at 11:54 am on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    Mary endorses this:

    Office of the Press Secretary ________________________________________________________________________________

    EMBARGOED UNTIL 10:00 AM ET SUNDAY, November 3, 2013

    President Obama Joins Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Terry McAuliffe For Celebration Of The Affordable Care Act


    Today, just over a month since the Administration launched, President Obama joined Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Terry McAuliffe for a campaign event in Arlington, Virginia. McAuliffe, a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, is a friend of the President’s
    and a long-time supporter of his legislative priorities, including the Affordable Care Act.
    Excerpts From Prepared Remarks of President Barack Obama Sunday, November 3, 2013

    Hello Virginia! Are you all fired up or what! Let me hear you! Now,
    I know you’re fired up for me, but I’m talking about my good friend,
    Terry McAuliffe.
    Let’s hear it for Terry!

    I’m here today because Terry has always had my back
    alright maybe not in 2008—
    but ever since then.
    He’s been
    a vocal supporter for our legislative priorities, especially the Affordable Care Act. Terry even wanted the public option and was just as disappointed as
    I was when that didn’t work out.

    You all know that Republicans like Ken Cuccinelli are doing everything possible to stop the law. They are grossly misleading the public, saying I wasn’t honest with
    you all when I said if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it. Can you believe that? Sure I said that
    but you all know what I meant! I meant most of you all!
    It’s not like I prefaced
    it with
    ―read my lips‖ or anything
    Look, no one is more upset than I am with how this rollout has gone, but
    Rome wasn’t built in one day.
    Sure I would have liked to see more than six people sign up on the first day, but change is never supposed to be easy. It doesn’t happen overnight,
    heck, it doesn’t happen in five years either. Fortunately, I’m going to have a partner in Terry McAuliffe right here in Virginia when it comes to ObamaCare!
    Terry has made clear that he’s relying on
    the law —
    through Medicaid expansion —
    to pay for his platform and I’m glad to hear that.
    And in fact, I’ve been reading that Terry’s stumbled onto something interesting

    …profiting on the death of

    others. You know the old saying
    there are two things that are certain: death and taxes.

    I’ve got to hand it to Terry, not even ObamaCare’s death panels were able to accomplish that. If there’s one thing Terry and I have in common, it’s a lifelong love of big-government policies. But that’s not the only thing we have in common.

    Terry and I are both authors. When Terry started writing his memoir, he called me for advice. He had read Dreams of My Father
    The Audacity of Hope, and wanted to get my two cents. My advice to him was simple: speak from the heart, let people get a sense of who the real Terry McAuliffe is, and most of all, don’t hold anything back.

    I was pleased when I saw that Terry took my advice. Before we took the stage today, Terry told me he knew exactly what I meant when
    said ―if you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that.‖ He’s got that car company down in Mississippi and they’re not building cars and that pellet
    company down in Franklin that doesn’t make any pellets. Nobody’s working harder than Terry McAuliffe to prove that people in business didn’t build anything

    ! Ah come on Terry, you know I love you! Hillary may be likeable enough, but I just love Terry McAuliffe
    no matter what he told Jon Stewart.
    All of you Democrats here in Northern Virginia need to make sure you vote, because there’s a lot of folks out there
    in the rest of Virginia still clinging to their guns and religion and those folks are going to vote.

    You know, unlike my last opponent, Terry McAuliffe can actually prove he’s created 100,000 jobs…oh wait…he can’t prove it…I mean, unlike my last opponent, everyone’s giving Terry McAuliffe a pass on his claim to have

    created 100,000 jobs. And I also want to give a big shout out to

    The Washington Post, after relentlessly tormenting my opponent about

    releasing his tax returns last year they’ve done Terry McAuliffe quite the favor by not demanding the same of him.
    Tomorrow, some of you will hear from Vice President Biden… Uncle Joe as we like to call him in the West Wing. With any luck, he’ll talk about binders…binders full of Chinese investors…binders full of Chinese investors that my friend Terry and his company successfully duped for millions.

    Way to go man…that’s quite an economic
    feat as opposed to owing them trillions. And finally, I want to clear one thing up and
    let everyone know that I’m not the least bit concerned about the DHS
    and SEC investigations that involve Terry McAuliffe. From my staff in the White House, to the folks in the Vice President’s office, to the folks at DHS –
    my administration has gone above and beyond to help McAuliffe’s GreenTech and I’m not about to let a couple federal probes by my own administration dampen my support for Terry. If there’s a problem, I’m sure we’ll hear about it after

    Election Day, but for now, it’s time to focus on more

    important stuff. Virginians should always know, they can count on Terry McAuliffe! Whether

    its 3 AM or some other time, he’ll likely be playing cards with my friend Bill enjoying each other’s company in measured doses.

  • Glory posted at 11:18 am on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 991

    Is this like the ACTUAL unauthorized picture of the distillery owner (used in LaRock mailers) who wrote to the Gazette to clarify his position?

  • Just sayin' posted at 11:11 am on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    Just sayin' Posts: 5

    Keep in mind, DD, you're apologizing for and defending a guy who barged into May's campaign office and bullied the young campaign volunteers; a guy who has been seen on several occassions removing his opponents' signs and literature; a guy who's been taken to court for bad business dealings, who doesn't pay his taxes on time, and who questioned May's integrity and insinuated May took bribes for votes. THIS is the guy you want to see get elected?

  • Just sayin' posted at 11:03 am on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    Just sayin' Posts: 5

    Seriously, DD? Just who did you talk to at the "Joe May office"? I talked to the man himself, and he said he was fine with it. You should probably get your facts straight before you post stuff...oh...wait...nevermind. That's not how your side rolls.

  • Pollytics posted at 10:56 am on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

    Pollytics Posts: 4

    Yo, Mr. Dickinson -- that ain't so……it's my understanding (pretty official) is that the pic was taken for a charitable event with permission. Remember the picture LaRock took on primary election day with Delegate May (without permission) and distributed it in ads throughout the district after the election (without permission). As my Mama would say, "Son, what goes around comes around."

  • David Dickinson posted at 8:53 am on Sun, Nov 3, 2013.

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    Yes. The Joe May office said they did not authorize it.

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 8:44 pm on Sat, Nov 2, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35

    David, you seem so confident in your stance...have you talked with Joe May OR the Daniel campaign about it? I would think they would be the ones to speak directly to it.

    Based on what I've learned about the two candidates in this race, from talking with them on various occassions, listening to Mary at various forums (ones LaRock cowardly dodged), and weighing all the information in their respective mailers - it's pretty clear to this independent voter (who has tended to vote Republican the past few cycles, particularly for Joe May) that LaRock is the one with a credibility problem. The latest bogus mailings from the RPV don't help his cause at all.

    He has a spotty business record, including being sued and/or sanctioned by the state board of contractors for things directly related to his business (failing to deliver as contracted, failing to obtain requisite permits & inspections, etc.); he has shown a tendency to bully others; he has not been honest with voters about his opponent; he was not honest about his reasons for dodging those 3 forums; and, when busted on it, his tendency is to deflect and hem and haw and try to play the "victim" card (funny, since he did all of the above to Joe May in the primary).

    Through it all, he has proven that he is not the least bit qualified to represent us in Richmond. Mary Daniel has been the consistent, sensible, "rock solid" candidate in this campaign, and has earned our votes.

  • Glory posted at 8:00 pm on Sat, Nov 2, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 991

    So you spoke with the Daniel (fyi-correct spelling) campaign?

    And all ministers and parishioners at the churches blanketed with LaRock campaign material were in approval of unauthorized use of leafleting car windshields "to falsely mislead people for political purposes"?

    Too bad the Patch took down select reports, perhaps by coercion?

  • David Dickinson posted at 7:26 pm on Sat, Nov 2, 2013.

    David Dickinson Posts: 1000

    Daniels did not have permission to use the picture of her and Joe May. It was a blatant unauthorized use of an unrelated photo to falsely mislead people for political purposes.

    There is nothing about the Daniels' campaign that indicates anything other than the typical liberal smear campaign. No solutions on Daniels' website, unauthorized mailers, yada, yada, yada.

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 8:22 am on Sat, Nov 2, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35

    LaRock is the candidate in this race with the honesty problem, and that has been highlighted on many occassions.

  • Glory posted at 7:17 am on Sat, Nov 2, 2013.

    Glory Posts: 991

    While May has not endorsed anyone, Mary Daniel campaign had approval for mailer.

    Any different than the pastor quoted in David LaRock's leaflets plastered on windshields in church parking lots last Sunday?

  • David Dickinson posted at 9:30 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    David Dickinson Posts: 1000

    False Daniel mailer has arrived showing an UNAUTHORIZED picture of Joe May and her shaking hands and trying to give the impression that he endorses her. He does not.

    That's blatant misleading. For all Daniels' supporters concerns about the veracity of mailers, there is a definite "do as I say not as I do" attitude to the campaign.

  • norges55 posted at 5:17 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

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    I knew about the yard sale fees and actually it's all for showboaters isn't it. I did not think it my place to modify Mr. Leeds letter and yes thanks for pointing out my spelling error, I have reached my quota of mistakes yours I fear is quite a bit higher. Mr. Leeds does believe in lower taxes and a smaller government and who does not after seeing the debacle the Obamacare rollout has been. READ MY LIPS You can keep your insurance plan and doctor and you can call that misleading or devoid of facts but I call it a lie. It's Daniel and her mindset, let's tax people into morality or we are doing it for your own good, just baloney from a dyed in the wool party line hack. You can call her liberal or progressive but make sure you include democrat and increases in taxpayer dollar spending. .

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 4:05 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35

    The Yard Sale get a FREE permit, but don't pay the $10 fee until you hold your 3rd one within a calendar year. Counting the 2 annual community yard sales, that is a total of four (4) FREE yard sales you can hock your used goods at, norges. This was passed in response to citizen complaints. Honestly...don't just forward some garbage from someone with an obvious your homework.

  • David Dickinson posted at 3:58 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    David Dickinson Posts: 1000

    OK, Fly on the Wall, why don't you go through Norges' Deeds/Leeds post and "debunk" it? Because, to me, you are playing right into the description he gave.

    On the other hand, don't bother. "Fly Swatter" Tuesday is right around the corner.

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 3:33 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35

    Matt "Deeds" (really "Leeds") is a Tea Party operative who lives outside know, that part of the district that LaRock cowardly avoided attending a public forum. He puts forward nothing but the lies and distortions that come from the LaRock camp - items that have been debunked more than a few times.

    You all are backing a guy who cares not a whit about the parts of the district west of the Blue Ridge. The balance of his endoresements? Loudoun County. The vast majority of donations? Richmond and Loudoun, particularly the $60K+ he's taken in from the establishment GOP leaders. Conversely, Mary's support comes from across the district, and elsewhere, and she outraised him this month. Not bad for such a heavily gerrymandered district.

    Mary Daniel is the principled, sensible candidate in this race with proven governing experience. Her message has been consistent. LaRock? Not even close. He lacks what it takes to be a proper delegate by any definition.

  • David Dickinson posted at 1:40 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    David Dickinson Posts: 1000

    Decrying LaRock exposes the weakness of Daniels' position.

    Looking forward to Tuesday [beam]

  • P-ville29th posted at 1:14 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    P-ville29th Posts: 5

    A shady developer who can talk out of both sides of his face, thats just what Loudoun needs. He can make a living off developing property near commuter corridors but not other developers, even if they have to pay higher taxes to do it. Lets not forget getting cars off the toll roads and jobs that metro will bring. Hard for me to vote for a man who doesn't vote until it benefits him and avoids debate to defend his position Another teabag ideologue.

  • norges55 posted at 12:47 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

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    Matt Deeds from you guessed it "Berryville". First hand knowledge and facts.

  • David Dickinson posted at 12:08 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

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    Hey, Norges. Where did that come from? Who is Matt? A very good analysis and spot-on regarding the candidates, echoes of which you see in these postings.

  • David Dickinson posted at 11:52 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    David Dickinson Posts: 1000

    ....other than the fact he saved the entire County from a tax hike. There is no need to trust when you have actual proof..

    I'm quite stunned at the degree that liberals are going to attack LaRock. There are some Delegate races in Loudoun that are winnable for Democrats, but the LaRock race isn't one of them. There is a Republican majority in all areas of the 33rd. Even if you could pull off a 50-50 tie in Loudoun, you have a 70-30 R/D split out near Winchester. You can't pull away that many votes in a low-turnout off year election.

    We Republicans should be happy that you are expending your efforts in a district you can't win. It is helping our candidates in weaker positions by draining your resources. And we didn't even intend to do it. You're doing it to yourself.

  • norges55 posted at 11:51 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    norges55 Posts: 1042

    Matt said this was ok to use
    The campaign process is about candidates bringing their resume and portfolio to the citizens, laying out their contract with us of how they intend to exercise their responsibilities as our representative; an interview for the job. As with any interview, I want hear about what qualifies the candidate; their achievements, record, and where they stand on the major issues. Deeper than that, I want a sense of their overall bearing or philosophy in order to understand how they will exercise their power and of when we are watching and when we are not. To turn a phrase, the “cut of their jib”

    There are clear and fundamental differences between Mary Daniel and Dave LaRock. Distilled to its essence, it is an overall mindset of governing and is evident in how they have been campaigning or interviewing for the job.

    From his announcement, Dave LaRock has been campaigning on the issues: jobs; low taxes; a transportation plan based upon safety, maintenance, and traffic needs rather than raw political power and influence; and defending our constitutional rights. He has stayed focused on this message. I have personally observed Dave while he has spoken with those who don’t’ agree with him. He is always respectful and truly listens to their point of view, but does not merely change his opinion to appeal to his immediate audience. Dave goes so far as to post his and his wife’s cell phone number on their web site. Dave lays out everything.

    Contrasting, Mary Daniel She did not plan to enter the race until LaRock resoundingly defeated the Republican incumbent. She worked a back room deal with the Democrat Party to have the already selected and running Democrat removed from the ticket and replaced by her; she was hand selected by party leadership..

    From her announcement, Ms. Daniel’s campaign has been run on platitudes, generalities, and vagueness. This is straight from the liberal Democrat playbook; run to the right “, hammer your opponent with lies, deception, and innuendo, and then feign victimhood when called out on it. Her campaign literature, ads, and stump speech are full of these phrases; “the reasonable”, “moderate majority in our area deserves a representative who shares their values”, “a fiscal conservative who will not hold the business of running the Commonwealth hostage to personal social agendas”, and “I am a mainstream moderate and an experienced problem-solver.” These are all well tested phrases that are designed to elicit a visceral appeal but have no depth or meaning to them except the one the audience wishes to attach to it.

    You have to dig very hard to find the real Mary Daniel, her political philosophy and record on the issues. However, if you do, you will find that she supports her party’s liberal agenda; right down the checklist. For instance, she is on the record as supporting this year’s $6 billion tax increase but has no plan for transportation other than we “deserve our fair share” where as LaRock’s published plan calls for funding based on congestion, safety, and maintenance. Nor is she willing to discuss the issue of billions of dollar in tax credits allocated to corporations which is more crony capitalism, which is not capitalism at all, but government rewarding its friends rather than creating an overall tax and spending policy conducive to business.

    She claims to be a fiscal conservative, but supports the Obamacare, medicare expansion and that local governments should “diversify their revenue sources.” That’s government-speak for new taxes. Obviously she believes the old ones are just not generating enough money. This is not problem solving, this is the problem.

    Another issue close to the residents of the rural 33rd district is our system of volunteer fire and rescue that has served as a cornerstone of our communities. LaRock has been a strong advocate and supporter of the VFD system that brings effective safety services at a very modest cost. Daniel, however, has accepted a very large donation from the IAFF (AFL-CIO) union. They didn’t stroke this check out of the goodness of their heart, they know she will support their agenda which has been to aggressively replace Volunteer Fire Departments with the professional union membership. This is already happening and will drive up the costs to the taxpayer exponentially.

    This also strikes to the heart of Virginia being a Right-To-Work state. The Washington Post reported that the President of the AFL-CIO, Richard “Trumka told the union he will stop at nothing short of a complete overhaul of U.S. labor laws and abolition of the Right to Work laws that operate in Virginia and other states.”

    Meanwhile, Dave LaRock has a record of fighting the onslaught of expenses to the taxpayer surrounding the Metro Silver Line in Loudoun which is nothing more than a government real estate deal with a subway component. While not being able to stop the massive project, he was able to keep the spotlight on the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors and the Airports Authority which eventually agreed to shift the burden to the developers from the tax payer and dropped the union-favoring labor agreement. This reduced the Phase 2 contract estimate $300-$400 million; that’s real money!!!
    Contrasting, “Moderate Mary” has been busy voting for higher property taxes, sewer fees, twice for taxes on machinery and tools. She tries to hide behind the phrase that these are revenue neutral. It’s only revenue neutral due to the weak local economic activity. For the tax payer, it’s hardly revenue neutral, it’s an ever increasing percentage of their stagnant incomes; she even voted for a fee to hold a yard sale. C’mon Mary, a fee to hold a yard sale? You don’t have the back of the little guy, your on the back of the little guy. Don’t believe me? This is all available through the Berryville Town Council minutes.

    There is no mistaking the mindset of each of these candidates toward the role of government; the cut of their jib. Mary Daniel is a supporter of government and regulation of every little detail of daily life. She has been intentionally very short on specific positions and long on poll tested vagueness, invectives, and deception. On the other hand Dave LaRock is a proud conservative shouting it from the mountain top. He has put out his constitutionally conservative platform and positions throughout the primary and campaign for the general election. His proposals have been based upon sound economic principles and freedom.

    In the remaining days to the election, join me in supporting Dave LaRock and voting for him for the 33rd District House of Delegates.

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 11:24 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35

    LaRock is a sellout to the establishment GOP leaders he talks about standing up to (those "career politicians" he references). As others have pointed out, he has a spotty business record; he totally did not vote at all (neither in 2009 nor in 2011) for any of the local or state GOP leaders he's now currying favor with; he has openly waffled on this stance; he has purposefully sent out mailer after mailer with erroneous information; he acts as if Loudoun is the only locality in the 33rd District; he cowardly dodged 4 opportunities to speak to voters and to stand beside his opponents and be measured and defend his positions, and then offered up a series of lame excuses and outright lies to excuse that behavior; and has been found to lack the good sense, the good judgment, the knowledge of the issues and of how governing works, and the temperament to deserve our votes.

  • David Dickinson posted at 11:08 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

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    Karen, J, Dave LaRock is 100% responsible for the ORGANIZED opposition to Metro. Many people spoke out in public, but the guy that organized the events around the Opt-out was Dave LaRock. There were many public input sessions he put together, on which I sat on the board of panelists. We spoke to crowds of 50-75-100 people at a time. Dave printed the flyers, got podiums, filmed video, called BoS members on the phone and held meetings. He drove the infamous Tax Pig around for the opt-out. And he got all the like-minded folks together to work together.

    But, I can see from your comments you are here strictly to tear Dave down and aren't interested in what actually happened. You are acting like a liberal parrot. No matter how much reality proves your delusion wrong, you hope to repeat it so many times that some soft-minded individual will believe you.

    I hope everyone sees how the Daniel's camp operates. Dave LaRock did good for us organizing the Opt-Out efforts and prevented a tax hike for the entire County. Think about that. He will take that same industriousness to Richmond.

  • norges55 posted at 10:05 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

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    I see a man who forced the BoS to come up with alternate funding for the boondoggle. Although this is not the boondoggle of all time, Obamacare stands alone atop the steamy heap. The pro rail crowd are so petty that they will not acknowledge the efforts and the positive results from the tax pig campaign, that's called "sore losers from rail". Sounds like the potential Johnny Cash song?

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 9:18 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35

    More LaRock bullying and double-speak. The man just doesn't deserve our support.

  • KarenJimmerson posted at 9:13 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    KarenJimmerson Posts: 45

    "I also led efforts to protect Loudoun taxpayers"......well, there were many (other) citizens who can make this same claim as they also spoke in front of the BOS and formed groups to petition their local gov't over the Metro Rail and Toll Road charges. Just because Dave LaRock happens to be running for Delegate doesn't make his actions any more valid, important, or omnipotent than the countless other citizens who were speaking up at the same time.

    Being against something that the majority of businesses and rational citizens believe will help the region is sort of like approving the discrimination against homosexuals, hate for Muslims, and being Anti-Choice when the majority feels and thinks otherwise ( stances that LaRock has tried to run from). Slave owners were on the wrong side of morality and ethics even though they used the Bible to justify the practice. Religion has a wonderful place in our world and culture, but not when it is used to inflict harm and ill will toward others.

    At this point, Dave may get his picture in the dictionary next to the word Charlatan.

  • The Operative posted at 7:46 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    The Operative Posts: 207

    Somebody from the Daniels campaign or the Leesbug Today, needs to watch archived video of the BoS Public Hearing (June & July 2011). David LaRock, his wife and all his kids, I think 7 kids in total, monopolized a block of time,I think it was 20+ minutes, voicing their strong and sharp opposition to Metro. LaRock can't have it both ways.

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 6:29 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

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  • Cmckeonjr posted at 5:07 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

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    No one deserves to lose more than this guy. His politics is so far right it's out of the ball park. He considers himself too high and mighty to participate in debates with the other candidates. Vote for somebody sensible, like Mary Daniel.

  • David Dickinson posted at 3:02 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

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    Ugh. Here we go again. Dave LaRock didn't change his story. He stated, “I also led efforts to protect Loudoun taxpayers and toll payers in the Metrorail extension financial plan. The result: Loudoun formed station-area tax districts…”

    Nowhere did he claim that he came up with the tax districts. We (the opt-out crowd) applied pressure which forced the BoS to come up with a more palatable plan, which was the tax district plan.

    And I doubt Williams came up with it either. Ask the 2030 Group lobbyists where it came from.

  • SatchMo posted at 2:43 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    SatchMo Posts: 198

    This guy is a total joke! Someone should ask Mr. Williams how much help he got from the tax pig LaRock. Nadda!!

    LaRock's campaign is starting to remind me of the Ghostbuster's Mr. Marshmallow inflatable parade float that began to crash and destroy everything it bumped into. What a nightmare.

  • ecuthbert posted at 2:42 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    ecuthbert Posts: 4

    LaRock couldn't find the truth if it hit him in the head. He's another TEA Bagging liar with zero ethics and zero business sense.

  • Fly on the Wall posted at 2:06 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    Fly on the Wall Posts: 35

    So...he's losing traction in the race, and resorts to this pathetic waffling when busted by his own email? Yeah...he's such a man of principle. Those districts were floated by Mr. Williams (whom LaRock only NOW credits with the idea, not initially when he sent out his press release) and the Loudoun Chamber of Commerce. (Hmmm...maybe THAT is why LaRock cowardly decided not to participate in their questionnaire and forum.)

    Then again, this is the guy who offered up several lame and bogus reasons for why he trespassed onto private property and destroyed the sign. He's also the guy who believes so strongly in democracy that he (A) didn't even bother to vote (at all, for any local or state GOP officials) in 2009 and 2011 even though he now has sought after their endorsements and cash; (B) dodged 4 opportunities to speak to voters, and offered up shifting reasons why (including having his campaign manager say the Purcellvelle event would see him if his "cost-benefit analysis" said it was worth his time; and (C) has realized that his extreme views and narrow-minded focus put him on the outside looking in.

    LaRock has a pattern of not being straight with we the people in this district. He doesn't deserve to represent us.